New 1958 stock tire size option from BF Goodrich.

[jbe2289]

Curious, what tire did you go with?

Cooper Discoverer Road+Trail AT. They have been great on dry, wet, and snow. They also have done great in light off-roading on gravel, rutted up dirt, and fields. Haven’t had them on anything extreme, but seeing how the LC 1958 does on the OEM highway tires in some of the reviews, I have no doubt they make the LC very capable in challenging off-road conditions, plus give it enough lift to avoid the scraping in those reviews - seemed like it was always lacking just a ¼”-½” in the Moab reviews by TFL and usually scraping on the exhaust.

 

[Isaac]

ok....

if someone wants to go with KO3 tires for a good All Terrain for the Pacific Northwest, do you go with the size recommendation of the tire shop? Im not doing any lifts, or rock crawling. Dont think i need to go offset. 17" stock rims on the 1958 edition.

 

[Dark_Horse]

Cooper Discoverer Road+Trail AT. They have been great on dry, wet, and snow. They also have done great in light off-roading on gravel, rutted up dirt, and fields. Haven’t had them on anything extreme, but seeing how the LC 1958 does on the OEM highway tires in some of the reviews, I have no doubt they make the LC very capable in challenging off-road conditions, plus give it enough lift to avoid the scraping in those reviews - seemed like it was always lacking just a ¼”-½” in the Moab reviews by TFL and usually scraping on the exhaust.

Thank you for the information, I will look at these!

 

[PDPete]

ok....

if someone wants to go with KO3 tires for a good All Terrain for the Pacific Northwest, do you go with the size recommendation of the tire shop? Im not doing any lifts, or rock crawling. Dont think i need to go offset. 17" stock rims on the 1958 edition.

The stock rims on the 1958 are 18", and the stock Geolander tires are 245/70R18. This size is NOT very common and hard to find in other model tires, which is why it's noteworthy that the popular BFG KO3s are now offered in this size, with a 'D' load rating.

If you're not planning on changing wheels, doing other modifications, or serious off-roading, and otherwise unsure of the size choices available, I'd probably go with this.

Most folks going with KO3s prior to the availability of these on the stock wheels were probably opting for the size on the standard LC trim, which is 265/70R18, however I believe those KO3s also have a load rating of 'E'.

 

[RideWithYanu]

ok....

if someone wants to go with KO3 tires for a good All Terrain for the Pacific Northwest, do you go with the size recommendation of the tire shop? Im not doing any lifts, or rock crawling. Dont think i need to go offset. 17" stock rims on the 1958 edition.

FYI, usually changing the offset only makes it harder to fit the tire. In PNW you want a good tire for wet (whether that’s snow, rain, or mud), which the KO2s were really bad at. KO3s have reportedly improved that with additional siping, and they’re one of the few decent options for your size wheel. I’ve used Cooper Discoverers in the past and liked them for road use (great in the snow), but not much offroad.

 

[HarvLC]

Glad you all like them and have this option! I’m surprised BFGoodrich made this tire size though given how small the market is for it, pretty much the 1958 Land Cruiser. I can only assume there must be more vehicles coming to market in this size and/or it is going to be used as a OEM tire for a manufacturer. I’m also surprised they haven’t released a D load in the highly popular 265/70R18. I went with a C load AT in 265/70R18 on my 1958 and saw little to no change in MPG and a big improvement in ride quality, handling, and cornering as well as achieving a 1.25” lift to 9.5” at the lowest point underneath.

1.25” from only changing tire from 245 /70 to 265/70? Wouldn’t that only give you about 1/2” more sidewall (or just over an inch more in diameter)? I’m sure the change in tread type to A/T would also increase the gain but by that much?

Regardless, I might prefer the appearance of the larger 265 to help fill the wheel well.

 

[Isaac]

1.25” from only changing tire from 245 /70 to 265/70? Wouldn’t that only give you about 1/2” more sidewall (or just over an inch more in diameter)? I’m sure the change in tread type to A/T would also increase the gain but by that much?

Regardless, I might prefer the appearance of the larger 265 to help fill the wheel well.

If you go with a 265, is there any rubbing at all? What is the biggest you can go without running into issues?

 

[Isaac]

FYI, usually changing the offset only makes it harder to fit the tire. In PNW you want a good tire for wet (whether that’s snow, rain, or mud), which the KO2s were really bad at. KO3s have reportedly improved that with additional siping, and they’re one of the few decent options for your size wheel. I’ve used Cooper Discoverers in the past and liked them for road use (great in the snow), but not much offroad.

I had the KO2s on my FJ and never really had issues with the rain. The fact that the KO3s are suppose to be better is that much better.

 

[ET2041]

Not sure. They’re d-load rated, but don’t feel any heavier than the stock tires on the road. Overall feel is super grippy (making the ride feel more torquey) and nimble.

How's the noise compared to stock?

 

[smokindok]

If you go with a 265, is there any rubbing at all? What is the biggest you can go without running into issues?

The 265/70-18 is the stock size on other trim levels, so rubbing should not be an issue.

 

[jbe2289]

If you go with a 265, is there any rubbing at all? What is the biggest you can go without running into issues?

There definitely is no rubbing with a 265, it is the stock size on other trims. There is no rubbing with a 275/70 either and will still fit the spare. Going to a 285/70 is where you start running into issues on full flex and not fitting in the spare.

 

[RideWithYanu]

There definitely is no rubbing with a 265, it is the stock size on other trims. There is no rubbing with a 275/70 either and will still fit the spare. Going to a 285/70 is where you start running into issues on full flex and not fitting in the spare.

You do get some rubbing on a 285/70, but it fits in the spare location without any trouble at all.

 

[jbe2289]

1.25” from only changing tire from 245 /70 to 265/70? Wouldn’t that only give you about 1/2” more sidewall (or just over an inch more in diameter)? I’m sure the change in tread type to A/T would also increase the gain but by that much?

Regardless, I might prefer the appearance of the larger 265 to help fill the wheel well.

Yes, based on tire specs, but in real life, those Yoko street tires at 245 are undersized. Measure them, I don’t remember exactly, but were under 30”, I think around 29 3/4”.

 

[jbe2289]

You do get some rubbing on a 285/70, but it fits in the spare location without any trouble at all.

It depends on the tire. That’s why I said you start running into issues with not fitting.

 

[zdeech]

Cooper Discoverer Road+Trail AT. They have been great on dry, wet, and snow. They also have done great in light off-roading on gravel, rutted up dirt, and fields. Haven’t had them on anything extreme, but seeing how the LC 1958 does on the OEM highway tires in some of the reviews, I have no doubt they make the LC very capable in challenging off-road conditions, plus give it enough lift to avoid the scraping in those reviews - seemed like it was always lacking just a ¼”-½” in the Moab reviews by TFL and usually scraping on the exhaust.

I had the same tires / size mounted a couple weeks ago. They have been great so far. I selected them based on a tire rack review that compared several mfr / models of AT tires. These came out on top for wet weather street performance which is a lot of my miles. Not too heavy either, load C SL rated that are 42 lbs iirc. I’m sure they will do great in the dirt and sand. Three peak rated too.

Discount tire would not buy or credit me for the stock Geolanders with only 400 miles on them. Those small stock street tires are so lame.

 

[smokindok]

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I had the same tires / size mounted a couple weeks ago. They have been great so far. I selected them based on a tire rack review that compared several mfr / models of AT tires. These came out on top for wet weather street performance which is a lot of my miles. Not too heavy either, a load C, and 42 lbs iirc. I’m sure they will do great in the dirt and sand. Three peak rated too.

Discount tire would not buy or credit me for the stock Geolanders with only 400 miles on them. Those small stock street tires are so lame.

Do they make the Discoverer Road and Trail AT in a load range C? I could only find them in an XL.

Load range C would be nice, but probably significantly heavier.

 

[zdeech]

Cooper Discoverer Road+Trail AT. They have been great on dry, wet, and snow. They also have done great in light off-roading on gravel, rutted up dirt, and fields. Haven’t had them on anything extreme, but seeing how the LC 1958 does on the OEM highway tires in some of the reviews, I have no doubt they make the LC very capable in challenging off-road conditions, plus give it enough lift to avoid the scraping in those reviews - seemed like it was always lacking just a ¼”-½” in the Moab reviews by TFL and usually scraping on the exhaust.

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I had the same tires / size mounted a couple weeks ago. They have been great so far. I selected them based on a tire rack review that compared several mfr / models of AT tires. These came out on top for wet weather street performance which is a lot of my miles. Not too heavy either, a load C, and 42 lbs iirc. I’m sure they will do great in the dirt and sand. Three peak rated too.

Discount tire would not buy or credit me for the stock Geolanders with only 400 miles on them. Those stock street tires are so lame.

Do they make the Discoverer Road and Trail AT in a load range C? I could only find them in an XL.

Load range C would be nice, but probably significantly heavier.

Oh, wait! Thanks for pointing that out! I bought the SL rated tires.

 

[RideWithYanu]

It depends on the tire. That’s why I said you start running into issues with not fitting.

Ah gotcha. I’ve got one that’s really far on the girthy scale (Mickey Thompson Baja Boss), so am surprised there are any in that size that can’t fit. Which ones have you seen have trouble?

You definitely lose more and more departure angle as you increase the size of the tire underneath. I’m still deciding where to/how I want to relocate my spare - and I want that spot for an aux gas tank!

 

[thoswhitesq]

How's the noise compared to stock?

Minimal additional noise. Noticeable but not loud or bothersome. No regrets.

 

[jbe2289]

Ah gotcha. I’ve got one that’s really far on the girthy scale (Mickey Thompson Baja Boss), so am surprised there are any in that size that can’t fit. Which ones have you seen have trouble?

You definitely lose more and more departure angle as you increase the size of the tire underneath. I’m still deciding where to/how I want to relocate my spare - and I want that spot for an aux gas tank!

I haven’t looked at the tire threads in a long time, but I remember seeing that certain 285’s not quite fitting into the space.

The range is disappointing. The aux tank with the exhaust relocate coming from Long Range America (I think) seems like it’ll be a good solution.