Just put a deposit down on a TRD Pro 4Runner

[Proyota]

As I have been waiting for the insurance payout on my Trail Dust LC Premium + I have been confused on what to do next. I only had 2,000 miles on my LC, and I really enjoyed it, but most of the dealers around me are marking them up 6-8k. There are a couple Heritage Blue in the build stage coming to dealers a couple hundred miles away, those are potential options. There are tons of 1958's available, but I am wanting a Premium + in either TD or HB. I was able to find a Mudbath over Black TRD Pro 4Runner at MSRP today, so I put a deposit down. I came from a 2018 TRD Pro (Cavalry Blue) and I really miss the ability to put the rear window down. I still really enjoyed driving my 4Runner, I just wanted all the cool tech of newer cars (specifically Carplay, push button start, and wireless charging).

Anyone else looking at the 4Runner? I took a brief glance at the Lexus GX, but to get the options I would want is more money than I would like to spend.

 

[RideWithYanu]

The 4Runners have always been and seem like will continue to be very cool, very capable, trucks. I’m sure you’ll be happy with one. 4Runners have long been essentially a Prado for the USA market, so there isn’t loads of differentiation between them and the Prado series Land Cruisers (a controversial statement that my fellow Land Cruiser enthusiasts will crucify me for).

 

[PACruiser]

I really like the new 4Runner and have owned previous generations for many years.

One of the main differences to consider vs. the LC you owned is the 4x4 system which is very different in that trim. There is a very detailed comparison youtube if interested.

Other things like style, fit/finish, and cabin shape and size are more obvious.

 

[Altitude]

If the 4Runner and the Land Cruiser had both been available when I was buying I certainly would have looked at both. I suspect I might have wound up with the Land Cruiser anyway because it’s a little bigger inside and I was coming off of a Tahoe. And speaking of the Tahoe, it also had a part-time 4WD system like the 4Runner and I think the set-and-forget Land Cruiser system is more my speed.

But that said, the design on the new 4Runners is fantastic. Everything good about the previous model amplified in the look, I think. I look forward to seeing a few of them around.

 

[RideWithYanu]

If the 4Runner and the Land Cruiser had both been available when I was buying I certainly would have looked at both. I suspect I might have wound up with the Land Cruiser anyway because it’s a little bigger inside and I was coming off of a Tahoe. And speaking of the Tahoe, it also had a part-time 4WD system like the 4Runner and I think the set-and-forget Land Cruiser system is more my speed.

But that said, the design on the new 4Runners is fantastic. Everything good about the previous model amplified in the look, I think. I look forward to seeing a few of them around.

As an alternative view, the appearances are the only thing that I have a significant critique of the 6G4R. I think it butt-ugly. But there’s no accounting for taste!

 

[NoMe cruiser]

I anxiously awaited the release of the 6th gen 4Runner, then when it was released I bought a landcruiser. The new 4Runner is not the styling I had hoped for .

 

[chris_in_phx]

As I have been waiting for the insurance payout on my Trail Dust LC Premium + I have been confused on what to do next. I only had 2,000 miles on my LC, and I really enjoyed it, but most of the dealers around me are marking them up 6-8k. There are a couple Heritage Blue in the build stage coming to dealers a couple hundred miles away, those are potential options. There are tons of 1958's available, but I am wanting a Premium + in either TD or HB. I was able to find a Mudbath over Black TRD Pro 4Runner at MSRP today, so I put a deposit down. I came from a 2018 TRD Pro (Cavalry Blue) and I really miss the ability to put the rear window down. I still really enjoyed driving my 4Runner, I just wanted all the cool tech of newer cars (specifically Carplay, push button start, and wireless charging).

Anyone else looking at the 4Runner? I took a brief glance at the Lexus GX, but to get the options I would want is more money than I would like to spend.

Thats gonna be a sweet truck. I love the mudbath color.

 

[Madscientist]

When I started looking for a new vehicle last year, I originally thought the 4R was what I wanted. Delays in 4R launch forced me to start looking elsewhere as I needed a vehicle sooner than later. I happen to see a LC at the local dealer and was immediately attracted to it, both from interior style and space, and just as importantly, the full time 4WD- the latter is something high on my list. I read that many 4R trims weren't going to have full time 4WD option. And so my search for a LC commenced in earnest around August- found the one I wanted at end of October and I enjoy it immensely. It would be nice to have a roll down rear window, but that's not a high priority for me. If I was in your situation now, I'd certainly want to test drive a 4R option with full time 4WD, but I have a feeling I'd choose the LC again.

 

[central division]

Enjoy it. They are both capable off-road Yotas. I bought a 2014 4Runner with 20K on it, and put another 100K on it -- including 2-3K off-road miles a year -- and loved it. Never had any issues, except with the notoriously crap suspension Toyota put on the 5th gen Limiteds. I was hoping for different styling in the 6th gen and with the options I wanted, it would have approached LC and GX price, so I went with a used LC-FE. In terms of the rear window, my labrador retrievers loved it. But I had mixed experience with it in terms of practicality. Driving off-road a lot, I had a lot of problems with it getting clogged (and often stuck) with dust and debris.

 

[PDPete]

The 4Runners have always been and seem like will continue to be very cool, very capable, trucks. I’m sure you’ll be happy with one. 4Runners have long been essentially a Prado for the USA market, so there isn’t loads of differentiation between them and the Prado series Land Cruisers (a controversial statement that my fellow Land Cruiser enthusiasts will crucify me for).

Mostly design and aesthetics, really. One thing pushed me over to the LC 250 was that it's a bit less aggressive looking than the 4Runner, and appreciate the more subtle styling of the LC...but I also wanted the full-time AWD of the LC, whereas the 4Runner is primarily RWD with part-time 4WD.

Also knew I wanted the hybrid power train, and once pricing for the new 4Runners was made available (plus the estimated wait times for the hybrid models), it made my decision to go for the LC that much easier.

 

[RideWithYanu]

Mostly design and aesthetics, really. One thing pushed me over to the LC 250 was that it's a bit less aggressive looking than the 4Runner, and appreciate the more subtle styling of the LC...but I also wanted the full-time AWD of the LC, whereas the 4Runner is primarily RWD with part-time 4WD.

Also knew I wanted the hybrid power train, and once pricing for the new 4Runners was made available (plus the estimated wait times for the hybrid models), it made my decision to go for the LC that much easier.

Full-time 4x4, not AWD, but I’m being pedantic.

 

[PDPete]

Full-time 4x4, not AWD, but I’m being pedantic.

My understanding is that with the center diff unlocked, it's more akin to "AWD", but once the center diff is locked, then it's traditional 4WD... unless I'm mistaken?

 

[RideWithYanu]

My understanding is that with the center diff unlocked, it's more akin to "AWD", but once the center diff is locked, then it's traditional 4WD... unless I'm mistaken?

The main practical differences are that full-time 4x4 typically incorporates a locking center diff and has a low range 4x4 gear.

 

[TakaraLC]

Full-time 4x4, not AWD, but I’m being pedantic.

They are the same thing.

 

[RideWithYanu]

They are the same thing.

Sure

 

[PDPete]

My understanding is that with the center diff unlocked, it's more akin to "AWD", but once the center diff is locked, then it's traditional 4WD... unless I'm mistaken?

The main practical differences are that full-time 4x4 typically incorporates a locking center diff and has a low range 4x4 gear.

They are the same thing.

Sure

I think we can all agree it is pedantic, but I do now understand the semantic difference between the two.

 

[PACruiser]

Here is a technical overview for those interested.



Perhaps more importantly, for practical purposes when would you choose one vs. the other?

In my opinion, the LC system is better if the vehicle is mostly used on slippery road surfaces like rain, snow, and dirt where its beneficial to allow each wheel to rotate at different speeds and recieve different torque levels.

This is also important if the vehicle is frequently turning as the inside and outside wheels would naturally rotate at different speeds. In those scenarios, not only is traction reduced but the tension created by not allowing the wheels to spin independently causes tension thereby increasing wear and tear on the system.

Thoughts?

 

[TimHerald]

As I have been waiting for the insurance payout on my Trail Dust LC Premium + I have been confused on what to do next. I only had 2,000 miles on my LC, and I really enjoyed it, but most of the dealers around me are marking them up 6-8k. There are a couple Heritage Blue in the build stage coming to dealers a couple hundred miles away, those are potential options. There are tons of 1958's available, but I am wanting a Premium + in either TD or HB. I was able to find a Mudbath over Black TRD Pro 4Runner at MSRP today, so I put a deposit down. I came from a 2018 TRD Pro (Cavalry Blue) and I really miss the ability to put the rear window down. I still really enjoyed driving my 4Runner, I just wanted all the cool tech of newer cars (specifically Carplay, push button start, and wireless charging).

Anyone else looking at the 4Runner? I took a brief glance at the Lexus GX, but to get the options I would want is more money than I would like to spend.

 

[TimHerald]

I was looking at that setup hard. I think that TRD pro in mudbath is about the best looking factory vehicle going. Looks Africa to me and I am in my way to Uganda now on my 39tj safari. That being said, I am buying a ‘25 LC - gonna lift and put on 35’s. Just fits me better being taller. That being said, you are gonna love it, and it will look incredible.

 

[StickerFab]

We just picked up an SR5 for the business, and I definitely like it. Unsure if comparing the two is fair as one is on MT tires and the other is on street tires (4Runner). However, it is easier to drive the 4Runner faster (non-hybrid) around corners. The weight and center of gravity probably impacts that.

Being in SWFL, full time 4wd is not as important as it was when we were living in Iowa.