The passport gas tank size is not materially larger than the LC.
Anyone else looking at the new '26 Passport?
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I loved my Honda Ridgeline and think recent Passports looked good - I don't really offroad, so I am probably squarely in their target market.
But this thing looks like a Pontiac Aztek mated with a Nissan XTerra. Not for me, but to each their own.
checkers (Passport) vs chess (Land Cruiser)
MC shoppers are better choosing something else than LC 
I guess there is wrong marker for them…
What’s the waste ( time, $, and LC ). There are many suitable MC out there
I guess there is wrong marker for them…
What’s the waste ( time, $, and LC ). There are many suitable MC out there
Posers perhaps. If you bought a LC250 and dont do some off roading that tighten the rear end to understand its capabilities youve spent extra cash for status only. Honda is the next best car manufacture for reliability and resale. So if the mall crawling consumer that does some camping trips on fire roads is all your doing, the Honda may be a better choice for many reasons. Regular gas vs Premium. being the first to see if Toyotas 4 banger with Hybrid will last for 300k or more like the Tundra, Tacoma and 4runner do. I'd also venture to guess cause I don't know but gas mileage on Hondas v6 is probably better than the 4banging hybrid. I was getting on average 18 mpg until I rose to the 285 tire now I get a dismal 14 trying to be easy on the gas. I love my LC250 premium, it sure is a much nicer ride than my 24 TRDPRO 4runner. Power, camera resolution, wireless android auto that actually works! I cant say that for the 4runner. Although I still think the 4runner with its ground clearance does better in extreme off road terrain. The comfort and power is worth a minor setback on my off-roading.
If your getting 23 you must never be doing over 55 and don't select sport to actually enjoy the power of the machine. 23 maybe on a controlled track with the wind to your back, in the real world that sh*t isn't happening. Don't get me wrong there's no way Id chose a pilot over the LC but if I wasn't an avid off-roader I may consider it. for a second then I'd quickly come to my senses and get the class comfort and power of the rattling a pillars and the cheap shaking glass in the windows with the under powered JBL system, and gas mileage that equals my 2019 Tundra with steel front and rear bumpers a winch and a 2.5 inch lifted 5.7 liter V8.
Also, here are some photos that last year Toyota 1st pushed hard in the advertising for their retuning LCs. From these original photos, you can tell these LC are designed for more off-road use (while on-road enjoying)…MC shoppers are better choosing something else than LC
I guess there is wrong marker for them…
What’s the waste ( time, $, and LC ). There are many suitable MC out there
I regularly get anywhere from 23-25 MPG while driving on the highway, in "normal" mode, at speeds in the 60-75 MPH range...even after swapping the stock tires to KO3s (still stock size, however)... I don't think it's that difficult to get the advertised highway MPGs with this vehicle...but I have found that city and/or stop-and-go driving is much more variable, depending on how much the hybrid battery can be used and how often the turbo is spinning up.
As another poster pointed out, I'm regularly getting 22-24 mpg in normal mode, between cruising interstates and highways 55-80 mph, mild off-roading, and in-town driving. Roof rack, skid plates, rock rails, stock tires, often times loaded for weekend or weeklong trips. I just did a ton of miles from NW PA to the Blue Ridge Mountains and back which included highways and mountain roads over the whole trip and was in that range. That real world sh*t definitely is happening!
If you make the argument that the Passport is a better fit for most people than the LC then you should also do the same for the Honda CRV-Hybrid AWD vs the Passport. It is an outstanding vehicle that cost about 10K less with great traction control, amenities, cargo space usability, and overall 40mpg.
Honda looks nice, probably would do well off road. But since I have more experience with FA series and the older EJs, I would rather get a Subaru. They have a rally pedigree that still trickles down into the design language of their vehicles despite all the negative connotations that come with the brand 
The Land Cruiser has a cargo capacity of over 1,100 pounds, the Passport 850 pounds
I think a problem with arguments like this is that the Venn diagram circle of "people for whom the passport is a great fit" sits nearly entirely within the Venn diagram circle for "people for whom the LC is a great fit"...
In other words, yeah, for a lot of LC owners, the Passport would work just as well, and yeah, there's a lot of overlap between the two vehicles...but ultimately, the LC is a more versatile vehicle off-road, whereas the Passport may appeal to those who want a bit more comfortable ride, more interior storage, and don't care as much about off-roading.
For me, I am kind-of considering trading my LC in for the Passport Trailsport, simply because of the electrical issues with the LC -- i.e. the small 12-V battery. It drains so quickly, and isn't at all well suited to holding up during several days of camping use (which is a real problem for me when I'm out in the boonies...) And if I upgrade to a higher capacity AGM, the LC can't fully recharge it.
All summer and fall I do tons of very back-woods camping, hiking and backpacking using very sketchy roads, and in general, the LC is great. And I live year round at 8600 feet elevation, so the full-time 4WD of the LC is perfect (this is the reason I wouldn't consider a 4Runner TRD Off-Road).
But a few things keep me from seriously considering the Passport. tho: Lack of a full-size matching spare tire (which I think is essential for back-country use), the AWD on the Trailsport (as opposed to a real 4WD system w/ low range), the lockers and disco sway bar on the LC, and the meager ground clearance of the Trailsport (only 8.1").
All summer and fall I do tons of very back-woods camping, hiking and backpacking using very sketchy roads, and in general, the LC is great. And I live year round at 8600 feet elevation, so the full-time 4WD of the LC is perfect (this is the reason I wouldn't consider a 4Runner TRD Off-Road).
But a few things keep me from seriously considering the Passport. tho: Lack of a full-size matching spare tire (which I think is essential for back-country use), the AWD on the Trailsport (as opposed to a real 4WD system w/ low range), the lockers and disco sway bar on the LC, and the meager ground clearance of the Trailsport (only 8.1").
Although not ideal, the 2026 Trailsport trim does include an option for a limited size full size spare in the cargo area.
Yeah, I was aware of that -- but for a variety of reasons, what I'd want is to either carry the full-size AT spare under the cargo deck (like on my Subi Forester and my Jeep Cherokee), or under the car (like on my Xterra and the LC)
