How to get better MPG

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I thought with all this life time mpg talk there should be a thread on sharing how to get better MPG.

First get a base line, which for everyone will be different. Don’t compare yours to someone else’s because my commute is 2 miles and others might be flat. Big tires, roof rack, etc all change things. As does fuel, btw, straight 91 0% ethanol is worth 3% alone if you are in a state that has it.

Anyway here is what I have found to get me better MPG’s.

1) Coast - Holy hell can this thing coast. I was not used to how early I could lift and maintain a decent speed. If I see a red light I lift and coast. Going down hill, coast. Find the places you can coast.

2) If the engine is off, keep it off. - This was the second most helpful thing to eke out better MPG. If you use the boost gauge and on the electric motor one there are 3 hash marks with the first one roughly 1/3 the way.
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I have found if can keep it below that the engine stays off. Think parking lots, slow and go traffic where you have been coasting, hwy transitions, long downhill runs that aren’t too steep. All of this is mostly below 60 mph where I noticed it was possible to keep running on electric. Above that speed the wind resistance is too much.

3) Light foot - much less that the others and in a way less obvious. Staying out off boost and holding part throttle helped too but less so.

Everything else for me wasn’t a noticeable improvement. What’s worked for you?
 
Mind the speed. The land cruiser is large and boxy, so wind plays more significant role than a sedan or other SUV. I found the fuel consumption goes up dramatically when speed is above 75mph
I agree with this.. if I keep it 75 and under I get 19-21. 70 and under low 20s. If I do 75-80 then it’s high teens.
 
Quite a few threads on this topic. Like mentioned ^^^ plus commons sense like the old shell company add that stated "Drive like there is a egg under your gas pedal". So with fuel prices rising with the war. Take is easy on accelerations. Slowly brake to get the best of the battery kick. Use the eco mode and dont hot dog with high speeds...
 
There is definitely a technique in the Land Cruiser, with key pointers being mentioned in post #1. Get it up to speed, and coast as much as possible. Eco mode helps as does Cruise Control in Normal mode on the highway. Staying out of boost when not required by using a light pedal helps also.

I got so I could hypermile my pig of a Jeep to slow its appetite, and the Land Cruiser (while already returning better mileage) can be improved with subtle technique. A friend of mine with a new Trailhunter leaves his in Sport mode with the concept of “letting it eat,” but I am generally not so throttle happy. This economy factor becomes more important as pump prices skyrocket.
 
Just wait for a solid tailwind, then head to your destination—if you time it right, you’ll crack 30 MPG… powered by 100% renewable energy courtesy of Mother Nature’s personal push. :)
I actually don’t start mine at all, I just put it into neutral and then just push it.
 
My solution is to drive the 4 workdays my tank affords me, then I steal my better half’s Sequoia on Fridays. Her’s gets 20 mpg at 20mph, 50mph and 90mph, it just don’t care.
 
So....what kind of MPG's is everyone getting?
Ask and you shall receive-

Headed There - Chicago to Colorado

Flat


162.1 Miles - 10.28 Gallons = 15.77 mpg

230.5 miles/12.383  = 18.614 miles

241.5 miles/13.980  = 17.275 miles

245 miles/ 15.343  = 15.968 miles

170.6 miles/9.887  = 17.255 miles

Mountain - Headed There

291.4miles/13.385  = 21.771 miles

Off-road

142.2 miles/10.543  = 13.488 miles

140.0 miles/9.864  = 14.193 miles

Return Trip - Mountain

240.3 miles/11.423  = 21.0365 miles

Return Triip - Flat

313.4 miles/15.038  = 20.841 miles (75 mph cruise control )

154 miles/8.645  = 17.814 miles

246.3 miles/13.836  = 17.801 miles

193.7 miles/9.275  = 20.884 miles (70 mph cruise control)

87 Octane - Chicago - Arkansas and back

205.2 miles/12.991  = 15.796 miles

135.4 miles/8.696  = 15.57 miles

224.8 miles/15.158  = 14.83 miles

234.4 miles/13.093  = 17.903 miles

242.1 miles/13.036  = 18.572 miles
 
I read the Motor trend review last week and they commented on the aggressive throttle tip in. I fully agree. so I tried Eco mode my last trip north and found it MUCH more linear. Driving home was hard to tell cuz 1st hr was with center locked on greasey grimey gopher guts on snows, but speeds were down in the 65-75 mph zone, varying crosswinds, Premium. 20.3mpg
Drove up in Eco mode at 75 in 65 mph zones and 79 in the 70mph zones. Crosswinds again........21.7mpg.

Always calculated even though dash readout can be quite accurate.

So, if you are finding it hard to smoothly modulate the throttle, try eco mode. Not sure if it retards full HP/Tq potential. I know it cuts back on AC.
Going home today, 87 octane. rain. Will see if I can backup my run north last week before I am convinced. Motor ran NO differently btw. Won't be forever, but switching octane neutralized the $$ [Content removed - via Admin] Finally, adaptive cruise sucks for mileage. It just surges and brakes as it chases the sheep in front of you
 
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Most owners ignore the details when complaining about MPG,
Rim weight/Tire selection/Roof rack/Driving style/outdoor temp

Yes egg 🥚 under the pedal technique is a must, not practical on modern day USA roadways

Here are 2 recent trips in my LCLC
18” wheels (Bradley V 26lbs) no roof rack, stock height (for now) Michelin XLT

Trip 1:
Stop and go traffic / South Bay to SFO 10:00am weekday 31.7 mpg (slow lane/minimal passing)

Trip 2:
Backroad drive up Metcalf Road with 2 miles of constant 10%-14% grade 25.5 mpg (maintained local speed limit and greater)
 

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I definitely recommend driving with your boost & EV meters on your dash to see how you are managing your charge. It also lets you stay more easily in the sweet spot for EV only driving as mentioned by the OP.

I also suggest seeing which mode works best for you. For me the only thing Eco does is dull the throttle, I don't actually get better MPG, if anything I get worst MPG in the city. I do use a mix of Eco & standard on long hauls. I can only assume its because I have to accelerate for longer limiting how much time I have available to LiCo? idk I also get far better mpg in the city than I do on the freeway/interstate.

Here is another thing I have noticed [for me] & is a bit contradicting to the ol' 'egg under your foot' saying.

If I accelerate softly like an egg is under my foot, I get maybe 11-14mpg. That is because my EV will either briefly pulse or doesn't activate at all, that puts all of my acceleration onto the 4 banger & turbo. If I accelerate more firmly and have more than 1/3 capacity in the battery (EV will not do much of anything at or below 1/3 capacity) then the EV activates and stays on until I start to LiCo.

Like I said above, I get the best MPG in the city, this is because the vehicle does not clip and only charges under braking and coasting—as far as I am aware.

The constant speeds with little to no coasting/braking on long drives simply depletes the battery too quickly leaving it all up to the 4banger. In the city though I have a ton of opportunities to charge the battery keeping the charge around 50%.

My interstate/freeway cruising MPG is only 12-14 giving me an impressively massive range of ~230 miles. In the city I usually average around 18-25mpg and am usually around ~240 miles per tank. My lifetime average is ~16mpg w/16k miles.

Big thing is to try a little bit of everything because the greatest thing I’ve realized [for me] is that none of it is consistent. Some times the ev works the whole time and I can accelerate lightly. Other times it just pulses and forcing me to totally lift off the accelerator and retry more aggressively to get the ev to work.

Someone said small tank? Yes, the NA market has one of the smallest tanks available with some regions having 110L OEM options available.

As for mods, the freeway or interstate is where this becomes most prevalent and why my range is only 230 miles per tank.

Context:
-Location
SLC lots of flats lots of hills
Lots of drives to WY, LV & PHX
-Cloudia
18” w/33” KO3
2/3 rack
ARB MKII
Warn Zeon 10k
TRD engine & trans plates
Expedition One slides
 
Man…probably just me… As LC and G owner, it’s bored to death to read how to save / get higher MPG with a lot of sacrifice things which support to designed and went with it.
Initially people decided to get the “huge brick” off-road focused truck, MPG is their priority?
I know my thoughts/comments here can get rocks thrown, but just want to share with gang here
No need to argue and prove right or wrong. Be happy with whatever make your highest SPG 😜
 
Man…probably just me… As LC and G owner, it’s bored to death to read how to save / get higher MPG with a lot of sacrifice things which support to designed and went with it.
Initially people decided to get the “huge brick” off-road focused truck, MPG is their priority?
I know my thoughts/comments here can get rocks thrown, but just want to share with gang here
No need to argue and prove right or wrong. Be happy with whatever make your highest SPG 😜
It doesn’t bother me because I could just choose to tune these conversations out, but otherwise I’m with you. I couldn’t possibly care less about fuel efficiency and wouldn’t have bought a Land Cruiser if I did.
 
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