First Roadtrip with my Land Cruiser

KurtW

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I have a Land Cruiser base trim with the premium package. After competing an engine break-in period, I just completed a 1,800 mile roadtrip from WV to NM. Overall I was very pleased with the performance and comfort of the Land Cruiser. I thought I’d share some observations.


The Good

Seat comfort was outstanding! The first day I spent 14 hours behind the wheel. It took a little experimentation to find the right seat adjustments but once I did I really enjoyed the seats. Starting out in the chilly morning the seat warmer, even on it’s lowest setting, provided a nice warmth to my back. Later in the day the ventilation fan kept me from feeling all sweaty. The biggest surprise was the pull out extender on the seat. Extended, it provided just enough additional support for my upper legs to reduce the stress I have felt on other long drives

Similarly, to me the suspension on the Land Cruiser is definitely tuned more for ride comfort than off-road. Driving across multiple states, with multiple different types of pavement, it smoothed out the road more than I expected.

I wasn’t sure what to expect with that 2.4L hybrid but there was plenty of power throughout the speed range. A couple of time I had to accelerate hard to pass idiots and the LC has power to spare. In fact I didn’t even feel how fast I was going until I looked at the HUD and then looked at the gauge to verify I was going that fast (no, I’m not telling you!).

Electronics: I am in love with traffic jam assist! I hit stop and go traffic a couple of time in TN, and boy did TJA make a difference in my comfort. I am not a patient person in stop and go traffic, however with TJA turned on I found I could relax because I wasn’t constantly juggling the brake and accelerator. I also got to know and appreciate the brake hold function, lane change assist, and the various warning sensors. Lastly, Toyota’s navigation system is not as refined as google maps however I love that it displays the navigation information on the HUD. Not having to look away from the road to see where I need to turn is very nice!

HUD: I wasn’t sure if I’d find the HUD useful. After 1,800 miles it is now an almost key feature. I found that I didn’t look away from watching the road, hazards (aka crazy drivers) and just the beauty of our country) as I used to have to do.

At night the front headlights provided plenty of illumination. This is my first vehicle with LED headlights and these are a vast improvement over my previous cars. The digital (camera) rear view mirror took some getting used to, then I found out how useful it was in judging where cars in my rear quarters and came to appreciate it over the “traditional” glass mirror.

Cameras, oh my 😊. The parking assist cameras are great. I almost always back into parking spots so having the different views was night. This morning I pulled front-ways into a parking space and the front camera came on automatically when I got close to the bollard (which I couldn’t see over the hood) so I knew exactly when to stop.



The bad

This thing sucks gas! Yes, I knew buying it that it didn’t have high MPG and a small tank. I planned a stop every 250 miles to gas up, stretch and deal with any other needs. That was a good distance and timing, and will do that on future road trips. I believe I understand, or at least accept, the need for premium gas. But the extra cost hurts. I estimate that I spent about $100 extra on premium gas.

I still haven’t cracked the code on maximizing MPG. On my first day I averaged about 69 mph and by the end of the day was getting about 22mpg. One the second day I averaged 74mph and was getting about 17mpg. I’m guessing MPG goes way down above 70mph but I am not sure yet.

I love the HUD and wish I could have more control over the information displayed. For example, I’d like to see how many miles to the destination or waypoint on my route and gas gauge.

I had a lot of fun experimenting with customizing the multi-information display however in the end I felt that it was lacking in overall customization. I’d love to have little tach, hybrid and turbo gauges in one cluster.

I actually appreciate the nanny camera however it needs some ability to be tuned. Look away for a couple of seconds to grab a water bootle, or bring the bottle up to your mouth to drink and you get a warning. Look away outside and you get a warning! If it wasn’t necessary for some of the other driver assistive technologies that I use I’d disable the darn thing!

From my experience on the road and around town I don’t think Toyota has optimized the hybrid batter/motor enough. Monitoring the hybrid gauge it appears that it only operates under very limited circumstances and for brief periods. I know the battery is small however I’d like to see it used further for low speed driving. For example, when I slowly pull away when the light turns green it starts with the electric motor. Within a few seconds the engine kicks on and takes over. I’d like to see the timing changed so more work is done by the electric motor.

Lastly, why are the fog lights tied into the low beams? I need them more when using high beams and I’d like to be able to use them independently of the headlights.

I suppose some folks will find the cool box useful but for me it is not a “wow” accessory. I’d have much rather had the regular storage compartment. I packed along my small BougeRV refrigerator to hold my drinks and other supplies. I have a small Ecoflow river 2 battery pack which is plugged into the 12volt cigarette plug, with the refrigerator plugged into the battery. Overnight the battery keeps the cooler running (The 256wh river2 will run it for about 1 ½ days straight). In it was able to keep much more than could fit into the cool box.

I hope you find my observations useful. After a two day, 1,800 mile trip, I can say I am very happy with my purchase. She ran beautifully, kept me safe and comfortable

Next for me are new tires. I’m pretty well sold on Geolander A/T G015s however I don’t know if I want to stick with my 20” wheels or get some 17” or 18” wheels and tires.
 
Interesting thoughts on the HUD. It's an eye-strain exercise whenever I use the one in my wife's car, but that's also 9 years older. Gotta check out the newer implementations, I suppose.
 
Great write-up and review.

Re fuel economy. Anyone who purchased a new Land Cruiser thinking it would be getting 20-25 mpg on average isn't intelligent enough to get to the point in life to buy a new Land Cruiser. The dry weight of a Land Cruiser is over 5,000lbs. There is not an aerodynamic piece of metal on it. It has a 326 HP engine that pushes it along rather quickly.
Yes. It is going to use some fuel......
 
Great write-up and review.

Re fuel economy. Anyone who purchased a new Land Cruiser thinking it would be getting 20-25 mpg on average isn't intelligent enough to get to the point in life to buy a new Land Cruiser. The dry weight of a Land Cruiser is over 5,000lbs. There is not an aerodynamic piece of metal on it. It has a 326 HP engine that pushes it along rather quickly.
Yes. It is going to use some fuel......
Thanks for the comments and LOL I agree with your statement about mileage! Especially the aerodynamic part :) That styling is part of it's charm for me.

I knew that going into the purchase and it was never a deal breaker for me. Highway driving will never be where it shines in terms of mpg. I still think the battery motor integration could be improved for city driving.
 
Thanks for the comments and LOL I agree with your statement about mileage! Especially the aerodynamic part :) That styling is part of it's charm for me.

I knew that going into the purchase and it was never a deal breaker for me. Highway driving will never be where it shines in terms of mpg. I still think the battery motor integration could be improved for city driving.
I agree. I am a little surprised at the 14.8 mpg I've been achieving in City driving so far. However, I barely have 500 miles on it and I am always in Sport mode. That's worth a little extra fuel burn to me. 👍
 
Agreed on tempering mileage expectations on a heavy, non-aerodynamic vehicle. I'd certainly be happier with more, but I'm already in the "can't complain" camp!

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One of the best things I did is turn off the nannies that tell you to "sit up straight", and "keep eyes on road".
I cannot figure out how to take off the one requiring you to keep a hand on the steering wheel, but that is probably a good prompt to be honest.
To turn those nannies off ;
go to vehicle settings on dash...
Driver Monitor Settings
"Driver Monitor Alert" - TURN OFF
"DMC Recording" - TURN OFF. ** this one I am not 100% sure helps with nannies. It might...not sure...but anything that is recording me is creepy anyway and I cannot imagine a good reason for it, so no thanks.
 
I have a Land Cruiser base trim with the premium package. After competing an engine break-in period, I just completed a 1,800 mile roadtrip from WV to NM. Overall I was very pleased with the performance and comfort of the Land Cruiser. I thought I’d share some observations.


The Good

Seat comfort was outstanding! The first day I spent 14 hours behind the wheel. It took a little experimentation to find the right seat adjustments but once I did I really enjoyed the seats. Starting out in the chilly morning the seat warmer, even on it’s lowest setting, provided a nice warmth to my back. Later in the day the ventilation fan kept me from feeling all sweaty. The biggest surprise was the pull out extender on the seat. Extended, it provided just enough additional support for my upper legs to reduce the stress I have felt on other long drives

Similarly, to me the suspension on the Land Cruiser is definitely tuned more for ride comfort than off-road. Driving across multiple states, with multiple different types of pavement, it smoothed out the road more than I expected.

I wasn’t sure what to expect with that 2.4L hybrid but there was plenty of power throughout the speed range. A couple of time I had to accelerate hard to pass idiots and the LC has power to spare. In fact I didn’t even feel how fast I was going until I looked at the HUD and then looked at the gauge to verify I was going that fast (no, I’m not telling you!).

Electronics: I am in love with traffic jam assist! I hit stop and go traffic a couple of time in TN, and boy did TJA make a difference in my comfort. I am not a patient person in stop and go traffic, however with TJA turned on I found I could relax because I wasn’t constantly juggling the brake and accelerator. I also got to know and appreciate the brake hold function, lane change assist, and the various warning sensors. Lastly, Toyota’s navigation system is not as refined as google maps however I love that it displays the navigation information on the HUD. Not having to look away from the road to see where I need to turn is very nice!

HUD: I wasn’t sure if I’d find the HUD useful. After 1,800 miles it is now an almost key feature. I found that I didn’t look away from watching the road, hazards (aka crazy drivers) and just the beauty of our country) as I used to have to do.

At night the front headlights provided plenty of illumination. This is my first vehicle with LED headlights and these are a vast improvement over my previous cars. The digital (camera) rear view mirror took some getting used to, then I found out how useful it was in judging where cars in my rear quarters and came to appreciate it over the “traditional” glass mirror.

Cameras, oh my 😊. The parking assist cameras are great. I almost always back into parking spots so having the different views was night. This morning I pulled front-ways into a parking space and the front camera came on automatically when I got close to the bollard (which I couldn’t see over the hood) so I knew exactly when to stop.



The bad

This thing sucks gas! Yes, I knew buying it that it didn’t have high MPG and a small tank. I planned a stop every 250 miles to gas up, stretch and deal with any other needs. That was a good distance and timing, and will do that on future road trips. I believe I understand, or at least accept, the need for premium gas. But the extra cost hurts. I estimate that I spent about $100 extra on premium gas.

I still haven’t cracked the code on maximizing MPG. On my first day I averaged about 69 mph and by the end of the day was getting about 22mpg. One the second day I averaged 74mph and was getting about 17mpg. I’m guessing MPG goes way down above 70mph but I am not sure yet.

I love the HUD and wish I could have more control over the information displayed. For example, I’d like to see how many miles to the destination or waypoint on my route and gas gauge.

I had a lot of fun experimenting with customizing the multi-information display however in the end I felt that it was lacking in overall customization. I’d love to have little tach, hybrid and turbo gauges in one cluster.

I actually appreciate the nanny camera however it needs some ability to be tuned. Look away for a couple of seconds to grab a water bootle, or bring the bottle up to your mouth to drink and you get a warning. Look away outside and you get a warning! If it wasn’t necessary for some of the other driver assistive technologies that I use I’d disable the darn thing!

From my experience on the road and around town I don’t think Toyota has optimized the hybrid batter/motor enough. Monitoring the hybrid gauge it appears that it only operates under very limited circumstances and for brief periods. I know the battery is small however I’d like to see it used further for low speed driving. For example, when I slowly pull away when the light turns green it starts with the electric motor. Within a few seconds the engine kicks on and takes over. I’d like to see the timing changed so more work is done by the electric motor.

Lastly, why are the fog lights tied into the low beams? I need them more when using high beams and I’d like to be able to use them independently of the headlights.

I suppose some folks will find the cool box useful but for me it is not a “wow” accessory. I’d have much rather had the regular storage compartment. I packed along my small BougeRV refrigerator to hold my drinks and other supplies. I have a small Ecoflow river 2 battery pack which is plugged into the 12volt cigarette plug, with the refrigerator plugged into the battery. Overnight the battery keeps the cooler running (The 256wh river2 will run it for about 1 ½ days straight). In it was able to keep much more than could fit into the cool box.

I hope you find my observations useful. After a two day, 1,800 mile trip, I can say I am very happy with my purchase. She ran beautifully, kept me safe and comfortable

Next for me are new tires. I’m pretty well sold on Geolander A/T G015s however I don’t know if I want to stick with my 20” wheels or get some 17” or 18” wheels and tires.

Fog lights are tied to the low beams because by law only four lighting sources can be active at any one time on a road legal vehicle. If your high beams are activated the DOT considers that to be two light sources in addition to the two low beams. If the fog lamps were also lit that would make 6. Which is no bueno.
 
Fog lights are designed, or at least shouldn’t be designed, to be ditch lights. They’re supposed to assist in driving in the fog, where high beams wouldn’t be used because they limit visibility. So it kind of follows that logic, if you are turning on the high beams you don’t really need fog lights. I mean. Other than for looks haha. It does look kinda cool.
 
Sounds like a great trip to break in the vehicle. Think you hit on all the high (and low) points for me as well. Overall, great vehicles though. Really do think Toyota could do a better job maximizing the advantages of the hybrid setup, but as stated elsewhere, these are heavy vehicles with the aerodynamics of a fridge on wheels!
 
Great write-up and review.

Re fuel economy. Anyone who purchased a new Land Cruiser thinking it would be getting 20-25 mpg on average isn't intelligent enough to get to the point in life to buy a new Land Cruiser. The dry weight of a Land Cruiser is over 5,000lbs. There is not an aerodynamic piece of metal on it. It has a 326 HP engine that pushes it along rather quickly.
Yes. It is going to use some fuel......
Your perspective on intelligence aside, Toyota should then adjust their EPA mileage estimates for the Land Cruiser. I would have purchased my LC even if the EPA estimates were more closely aligned with my real world experience. I am experiencing 19-20 MPG and I am satisfied with that but no need for Toyota to leak credibility for something so simple and demonstrative.
 
A nice write up @KurtW. Much of it mirrors my own thoughts on the LC. So far I have about 7K miles between our LC Premium and 1958 models, and love both of them for what they both do.

We are looking forward to a nice two week trip from Indy to Florida, with a fair amount of mileage to cover during that time. Taking the LC Premium on this trip due to overall comfort, more thoughts will be gathered during this trip I am sure!
 
I agree. I am a little surprised at the 14.8 mpg I've been achieving in City driving so far. However, I barely have 500 miles on it and I am always in Sport mode. That's worth a little extra fuel burn to me. 👍
Try it in ECO or Normal for a while and don't be lead-footed (hard habit to get out of - ask me how I know). I get around 20.2-22 around town, with some ups and downs. Mileage on flat terrain is much better than ups and downs.
 
Your perspective on intelligence aside, Toyota should then adjust their EPA mileage estimates for the Land Cruiser. I would have purchased my LC even if the EPA estimates were more closely aligned with my real world experience. I am experiencing 19-20 MPG and I am satisfied with that but no need for Toyota to leak credibility for something so simple and demonstrative.
I watched some videos on how the EPA estimates are calculated. They do it indoors, on a Dyno and do not run the AC, HEAT,etc.. right now in SC we are having wonder weather. On my longer trips I’m averaging 21-22 mpg. On my shorter trips, 16-18 mpg. In the cold, cut about 2-3 mpg for each mpg aforementioned. I considered the GX550 but its EPA is materially lower and real world feedback is worse. Despite the smaller gas tank, we are getting better range vs the GX550 based on what I’ve read and watched.
 
Try it in ECO or Normal for a while and don't be lead-footed (hard habit to get out of - ask me how I know). I get around 20.2-22 around town, with some ups and downs. Mileage on flat terrain is much better than ups and downs.
Ditto for me. I am getting the same as you around town. Running the seat heat and heated steering wheel or AC cuts it down more, so I warm up the seat and steering wheel, then turn them off. One the road I get around 26 mpg on relatively flat terrain. I added a stock Toyota roof rack to my 2024 1958 LC, and that cut my mileage about .5 mpg, but it is noisier...I also have started running mostly on 89 octane, which does not seem to make any difference than 91-93.
 
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