Built A 4Runner Limited iForceMax......$62,585...Hmmm

[Esquire]

I built a 4Runner Limited iForceMax just to see where one would end up pretty well-equipped. It came to $62,585 with just basic options. I have attached my build.

That is nearly $13k more than my '22 4Runner Limited (with all options) window sticked for when I purchased it in December '21.

My '24 Land Cruiser had an MSRP of just under $71,000.00.

The Land Cruiser Premium is a significantly better truck in a multitude of ways with a variance of approx $10k. Well worth the price difference.

What surprised me is how in 3 model years (just over two actual years), there was a $13k increase in price for the 4Runner Limited. Frankly, astounding.....

 

[Area 51]

Any version of the 4Runner is inferior to any version of the new Cruisers.

 

[Nuke]

Yep, a big jump, but one has to factor in a much more complex drivetrain (turbo, hybrid, etc.), and greatly enhanced electronics. And, of course inflation. Hidden is that Toyota has to warranty all this.

 

[Nuke]

Any version of the 4Runner is inferior to any version of the new Cruisers.

Arguable, as the "1958" LC is very spartan. Contrast it to interior of the 4Runner Platinum. However, agreed re drive train (except tires). I am beginning to wonder if Toyota primarily developed the new LC for the GX market, but tossed it out there while completing development of the 2025 4R.

 

[MJE]

I’ve been looking at the premium here as I can get it in java which I love & the standard package doesn’t let me delete the moonroof anyways (we’re so limited on choices here in comparison). Sadly that also means I need to pay for the 20”s. So $89K, the equivalent build on the US side I think is $70K. Now comparing it to a 4R Platinum (we’re not offered the Limited here in hybrid, only 7 pass), that build is $77K here, equivalent I believe is $65K in the US.

I can see where on the US side you’d conclude the 4R isn’t a great value when it’s almost the same price. Here it’s a more significant difference. Still I rather like the tall greenhouse & visibility offered by the LC. The fact I could actually wear this hat (granted not a giant 10 gallon one) in a car with a sunroof was amazing to me. While I can see the value in it for sure (it is a Toyota after all) I could wish it was priced just a little better here. Still, I’m not sure that difference matters much over the life of the vehicle, particularly with the resale values of used Toyotas where you really get your money back out of them. So also curious in what ways you find the LC to be the better truck? I think the height/visibility was enough for me to make that conclusion.

 

[ZNFRNO]

I built a 4Runner Limited iForceMax just to see where one would end up pretty well-equipped. It came to $62,585 with just basic options. I have attached my build.

That is nearly $13k more than my '22 4Runner Limited (with all options) window sticked for when I purchased it in December '21.

My '24 Land Cruiser had an MSRP of just under $71,000.00.

The Land Cruiser Premium is a significantly better truck in a multitude of ways with a variance of approx $10k. Well worth the price difference.

What surprised me is how in 3 model years (just over two actual years), there was a $13k increase in price for the 4Runner Limited. Frankly, astounding.....

I was similarly surprised…i had a ‘19 4R Pro that cost $47k…now a Pro is +$20k at $67k, and more than I paid for my LC. That works out to about 7% per year, which unfortunately aligns with the crazy inflation we’ve all had to endure for a while now.
Agree that the LC is a better truck (better 4wd system and better looking IMO), and I’m very happy with my LC.
Even if the LC were not better in a direct comparison with the new Pro, I could mod my LC suspension for better performance and ground clearance with quality equipment and still be around the same price…the only thing I’ll continue to miss is the sliding rear window.

 

[PACruiser]

Indexed data (not actual price) on the average price of new cars in US over the last few years.... Most common causes listed for the increase are inflation, manufacturing/supply chain disruptions from the pandemic and chip shortages.

 

[PACruiser]

US money supply for same period in case you are wondering on why there was so much inflation.

 

[Esquire]

Any version of the 4Runner is inferior to any version of the new Cruisers.

The interior and exterior quality are significantly higher in the Land Cruiser.
When I received my Land Cruiser, the first thing I noticed was the weight of the seat belt latch. It was very heavy compared to my 4Runner; hence higher quality metals.
Additionally, when you close the arm rest/cooler box, it clicks/snaps shut like an airplane or a Boston Whaler boat. High quality. The 4Runner has a plastic feel to the closing.
And that's just two of many quality differences.
Don't get me wrong, I love 4Runners. I have kept my '22 Limited around for a "beater" SUV. I expect it to run forever.
It's just not in the Land Cruiser league.

 

[Glimmertwin]

I’m not sure if I’ve read it here or on the 4Runner forum at some point, but, I’m sure Toyota took notice of all the people who paid 5-10k over MSRP for the 4Runner for the last several years and has priced it accordingly. When we bought our ‘22 ORP (our sixth 4Runner in 25 years) in December of 2021, they had a 5k markup on it and I walked away. They called me two days later and offered me MSRP, which I believe was just over 48k.

People will pay huge amounts to keep from missing out on whatever “thing” they’ve mentally latched on to.

I paid MSRP for my 1958 in September and was happy to pay it. It would have been nice if I’d waited, apparently I could get one a month or two later for a few thousand off. Who knew?

 

[sirdizzle]

I was planning on buying a 4runner limited iforce max. With options my build ended up being 65k. Found an LC premium (msrp of 71.5) for 67. It was a no brainer to pay 2k more for a land cruiser

 

[wwoodywood]

I built a 4Runner Limited iForceMax just to see where one would end up pretty well-equipped. It came to $62,585 with just basic options. I have attached my build.

That is nearly $13k more than my '22 4Runner Limited (with all options) window sticked for when I purchased it in December '21.

My '24 Land Cruiser had an MSRP of just under $71,000.00.

The Land Cruiser Premium is a significantly better truck in a multitude of ways with a variance of approx $10k. Well worth the price difference.

What surprised me is how in 3 model years (just over two actual years), there was a $13k increase in price for the 4Runner Limited. Frankly, astounding.....

One “bonus” of the 4R is that it has the exact same engine as the LC but doesn’t “require” premium gas. Around here, premium gas is $0.75 more per gallon, so you’d save about $3k in gas over 5 years.

 

[Esquire]

One “bonus” of the 4R is that it has the exact same engine as the LC but doesn’t “require” premium gas. Around here, premium gas is $0.75 more per gallon, so you’d save about $3k in gas over 5 years.

You literally just lit 99% of our members on fire with your post.

 

[dbirling]

I went through this same process, the 1958 had many things I would have had to upgrade to get, especially since I wanted the iforce for towing, plus the new 4Runner wasn’t even on the lot yet!

 

[rickc5]

Can't forget that in the 4Runner Limited or Platinum, lots of the "off-road" features found in the LC are not included, even as options. Those two 4Runners are highway/mall cruisers.